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I had this problem for so long and the solution is so very simple. So below is what you see while you work but you zoom in and you see tones. You export and it's still grey right? Well there's only one small step to do.
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Go to the layers panel where the screentone layer is. Right click, go to rasterize and click. When it asks to keep original yes or no, select 'Yes' just in case you need to change the dot size. And you should then see this as a result and it should be the same when exporting.

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I see this problem often on DA where everything else like materials is showing  up screentone and the rest of the art seems to be greyscale painting and it looks odd. The solution is simple. Like photoshop all the layers need to be rasterized for export. I like to put my tones in a folder since it doubles up so much. There is also the method of using tones as a pen that I didn't mention in my first tutorial because it's been covered so much already on DA and youtube. Anyway I forgot about this little tip that proves to be a big help later on when publishing if you publish or even just for posting to the net.

Hopefully this helps and as always don't be shy if you have a question <3 Ask away ^w^
For those having trouble getting their screentones to show up instead of appearing as a flat grey colouring.
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20715757soIWontForge Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Student General Artist
to rasterize the tone layer is a good way but it becomes a draw layer, that will be a trouble if you need to change it in the future. The common way to show the dots is easier.
1 when you create a new tone layer you can change the darkness, the spot (or diamond, line, etc), the angle and there is a fiels called lines
            - in my version the default value was 60, if you change it to a smaller value it will change the proportion and size of the sptos so the darkness wont change

2 if you don't know what value you need don't worry, you can change it later in the layer settings. there you can change everithing again, like darkness, gradiation, angle, etc
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DraconianRain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this is for an earlier version for an issue during export. This step was to make sure it would export as tones and this was the only solution. Since then the bug has been fixed and can be edited to no longer occur during export allowing tone layers to remain tone layers.
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MissChibiArtist Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Ah! Thanks so much for this! This was exactly what I was looking for. ^ . ^
And I was wondering if there was a generic dot size that mangakas use for screentones, or if it is just whatever you want.
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DraconianRain Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome <3 I'm very glad it helped you out ^w^

There is an industry standard but as the size of the paper changes, so do the dots. Most artists however choose what they like but if you plan to print, you'll find you need to lighten your tones considerably since it comes out much darker on paper which is why a lot of the tones are in light colours on the raw image. Generally speaking skin colour is 5% to 15% grey with dot sizes between 30 to 60 on B4 paper. Most but not all manga is generally created on B4 paper/artist board. After I learned that I found selecting B4 or A3 paper to be one of the best choices. Toning got a lot easier after that.

Also there's an option to group tones and when the folder is closed you can view all tones as Rasterized if the folder is closed. You might also find that helpful too ^w^ I did. If you need help with this program in future or get stuck, feel free to ask me any time.
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MissChibiArtist Featured By Owner May 1, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Awesome! Thanks!
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DraconianRain Featured By Owner May 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
no probs ^w^
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Dark-Merchant Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
so are my tones supposed to look like this for web viewing? (backgrounds in panels 1 and 3) [link]
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DraconianRain Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No. The grey instead of tones is for proofing to make sure all the lighting and contrast levels are done correctly. To have them toned each time you export you should have your export settings set to this [link] so you will never see the flat greys again after export. You should still be able to have the tones display properly even for web viewing. Hope this helps. But basically, tones are dots and should be viewed as dots even after export, mangastudio however is by default set to export not as tones but as flat grey colouring.
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Dark-Merchant Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
thanks, how do I do this in photoshop?
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DraconianRain Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Photoshop is different, in photoshop you need to use a filter called Color halftone with your image type set to Grayscale instead of RGB mode in order to work correctly.

Go to image menu, then mode then select grayscale. Don't flatten. Colour the grey you intend to use as a screentone on it's own layer. With that grey layer selected, go to filters, Pixelate, Color halftone. When the dialogue appears leave max radius as 8 to test out the dot size, you can undo if it's too big or small and adjust the max radius until you find the right size. Max radius changes the tone dot size. Change channels 1,2 and three to 45. Leave channel 4 on 45. If it's not on 45 then change it to 45. Hit ok and you will see everything on the selected layer changed to dots like screentones. You will have to do this for each coloured layer that you want as a tone. This tutorial shows this in action [link]
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